Posted By: PaganKLHI do and I hope I am right.Sure base a lot of my beliefs on this idea."Faith Is Much Better Than Belief. Belief Is When Someone Else Does The Thinking"
Posted By: Seppe Cools@TheBlueFalconXThe out of body experience sounds very nice, i've never had it before, but the explanation of it is very simple by the way.There is a part in our brain that has an image of our body, and thanks to this image we know where our body is in relation with our brain.When you have a out-of-body experience, this image gets disorted and our brain is moved in for example the Z-direction of this 3 dimensional image.Then we see that our brain is "here" and that our body is 1 meter in front of us.And there you have your out-of-body experience.This can happen in all the different directions, all of them resulating in what we call the "out of body experience", but the only thing that happens is just some error your mind runs into when looking at the mind relative to the body.So it has got nothing to do with a possible soul, as you've discovered by yourself already.I still haven't experienced it in my life, but i know that it is possible in a lab to recreate this, by using electrodes on the right parts of the brain. But i'm not gonna get my skull drilled to experience it.
Posted By: TheBlueFalconXIn my experience I left my room and went downstairs and was gliding through the living room. I could see my grandma sleeping on the couch, and my cat walking from the back sliding door to the hallway. I remember vividly the way the parking lot light shone through the tiny glass window on the heavy front door.
Posted By: Seppe CoolsPosted By: TheBlueFalconXIn my experience I left my room and went downstairs and was gliding through the living room. I could see my grandma sleeping on the couch, and my cat walking from the back sliding door to the hallway. I remember vividly the way the parking lot light shone through the tiny glass window on the heavy front door.oh this is still something else you are talking about, thats another kind of OBE (more to the extreme) i've never dug into, so i can't really say anything about that,but a wild guess would be that it's a mix between what i said before and a dream,but i prefer experiencing this myself firstWhat i do want to state is that not a single part of you did actually go to that living room. That's something i don't believe.What i do believe though without any problem, is that you remember that it really happened.We know that the memory is storing wrong experiences a couple of times. Things you are absolutetly sure about right now, but have never happened. So it's probably a mix of all these things.
Posted By: Azmodan_KijurThe particles within me will not be there in a few minutes. Sure, I believe that such a statement has a rational basis, but no proof has been provided to imply that something of me leaves with each atom. Rather, the only proof we have is that our body is designed in such a manner so as to utilize materials as fuel and then discard them. It may give you some form of "mind fuck" realization that a component you just used was in an elephant some time ago and will be consumed by a lemur sometime in the future, but this is the nature of living in a biosphere wherein materials are recycled on a relatively constant basis. It is why the system works, actually. None of those atoms are the property of the apple I just ate or the fruit fly that will eat part of my leavings. However, for the duration that they exist within my homeostatic system, they are mine. I control them and they serve me only to be rejected when they are of no further need.Will these parts I reject get used by someone else. Yes. Will it continue to do so for the next 10,000 years? Yes. Doesn't that mean that I have been reincarnated. Not at all. My parts are not me once they leave. They are waste materials to be recycled into the system. They will continue to get reused for many eons and it will mean nothing to me when I die. When I am gone, I am gone. My conscious dies with my physical form. The gestalt of my brain will be no more and all will be left is dead matter - lifeless components to decay and become the food of microbes and such. To be recycled into the system. That gestalt holds everything that I am and when I die, it dies. You might find comfort in the thought that your body will serve other life forms. Technically, this may even be called reincarnation - the act of being made flesh again. But then, my waste is already flesh again somewhere else which has absolutely no worth to me as a conscious entity. Reincarnation as a phrase is used to refer to the continuation of you as a person, not the continuation of waste materials you expelled at age ten. In this manner, there is no reincarnation. Again, you might find comfort in emotionalizing the recycling process, but that should not be called reincarnation. Call it "contributing to the system", if you like.
Posted By: Azmodan_Kijurbut no proof has been provided to imply that something of me leaves with each atom.
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