Schools going to shits...
  • MATTMATT
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    Posted By: ProletariatTreeHugerAlso, why do you want students to only be taught what contributes to their career specifically? Don't you care about a well rounded citizen that's not a complete idiot except for the very narrow profession he was forced into?
    I think Exiled might be explaining what he wants the wrong way. He wants schooling that nurtures someone's talents specifically instead of forcing to take everything. So that they can be best equippied for the range of jobs that they are naturally inclined towards. Edit: I'm assuming. Because I figure he probably agrees with me. Not that I've been paying close attention to this thread.
  • ProletariatTreeHuger
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    Posted By: MATTHe wants schooling that nurtures someone's talents specifically instead of forcing to take everything. So that they can be best equippied for the range of jobs that they are naturally inclined towards.

    The point is to introduce the students to everything so they can actually know what they want to do, and what their natural inclination is. Let's face it. Children are dumb. They get an idea in their head, and think they are absolutely sure that's what they will do forever, then 2 weeks later it's on to something else.
    Why would we structure a system that instead of allowing students to experience everything, to make a more educated decision, we let them pigeon hole themselves into the flavor of the month?
  • Goldenkobold
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    I am opposed for trading a broad education for something that sounds more like a trade school. However perhaps at 11th and 12th grade level some sort of technical trade school could be incorporated for those not planning on going to college.
  • MATTMATT
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    Posted By: ProletariatTreeHuger
    Posted By: MATTHe wants schooling that nurtures someone's talents specifically instead of forcing to take everything. So that they can be best equippied for the range of jobs that they are naturally inclined towards.

    The point is to introduce the students to everything so they can actually know what they want to do, and what their natural inclination is. Let's face it. Children are dumb. They get an idea in their head, and think they are absolutely sure that's what they will do forever, then 2 weeks later it's on to something else.
    Why would we structure a system that instead of allowing students to experience everything, to make a more educated decision, we let them pigeon hole themselves into the flavor of the month?
    I concur:Mosquito
    Obviously it wouldn't work if it went like that. It would have to start with something general to get a general idea of what people are naturally inclined (edit: and I don't mean what they like, I mean what they're good at) to doing, and then on to more specific things from there. As opposed to making them take everything all throughout their schooling and making them wait until you have to pay heaps of money to go to university where you get to be a bit more specific about what you're learning.
  • Exiled.One
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    First off, I'm a girl so stop calling me he.

    Second, I never said students shouldn't be taught a wide range of subjects. They can be introduced to them in their elementary and junior high years and if they know what they want, they can go ahead and go into that in high school. Yes, there are a lot of teens who don't know what they want yet and may change their minds. So, they can change the subjects they take every semester. Wouldn't that be well rounded anyway? But if someone like me already knows what they want then we should be allowed to specifically study that subject instead of learing way more of a subject then they want to or need to learn.
  • MATTMATT
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    Posted By: Exiled.OneFirst off, I'm a girl so stop calling me he.
    Huh, I was wrong!
    I'm going to keep calling you a he anyway! Screw you for breaking my streak!
  • Jari
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    Posted By: MATTHuh, I was wrong!
    I'm going to keep calling you a he anyway! Screw you for breaking my streak!


    Then by "his right" (sorry) she should call you a she, but I don't think that would hit you where it hurts. Zing.
  • ProletariatTreeHuger
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    Posted By: Exiled.OneSo, they can change the subjects they take every semester.

    Students are able to do that already. I don't see how your idea is any different, except complaining that you are also learning too much of things you deem unnecessary.
  • Exiled.One
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    Maybe thats how it is in schools where you are, but its not like that here. I don't know of any creative writing classes that are available for me to take. And if art or music conflicts with your schedule or there's not enough room (because they're only offered for one period by one teacher) then you can't take it because apparently math and social studies are more important.

    My complaint also lies with the teaching style. There is a curriculum that teachers must teach by and they're made by people in the government who have no experience in education what-so-ever. A teacher told me this.
  • ProletariatTreeHuger
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    See, that's the problem with complaining about a blanket government public school system. The schools are actually very different state to state, and even county to county. We all have different experiences and different opportunities.
  • Exiled.One
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    That's true. When I complain about the school system, I'm specifically complaining about the Georgia, U.S. school system. I should have made that more clear.
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