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Into The Fray: What would it take to make you believe in god?

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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    For example. What if shiny winged men came down from the sky and started having an epic battle with flaming demons that came out of giant cracks in the earth? Would you look for a logical explanation or would you just say "fuck it, there must be a god"?

    Truthfully, I don't think I could ever accept the existence of god. I think if satan and jesus were having a lightsaber duel on my front lawn I would try and find some kind of logical explanation. I would go into denial most likely.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
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    There may be a point when I'd believe god was real. It'd take a lot though. However, I'm more likely to side with Satan or just say screw you god. I was a maltheist before, I can be one again if necessary.Canto Ergo Sum
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      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Well, If jesus appeared before me in the middle of a busy mall with m friends and performed a few spectacular miracles then I would certainly consider the idea of a god.
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    Maybe if god said the same message to every person on the world simultaneously.
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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    I would just curl up in the fetal position and cry until my brain fell out my ass.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
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      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    He'd have to come down and explain the Bible to me in terms that made it more likely to be true than false. I would have to confirm his appearance with other witnesses, run the explanation by everyone I deemed worthy of its critique, and if it all checked out, then I'd believe. The truth would hurt, but I'm man enough to accept it."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
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    If he'd just had a word with me I'd agree he existed, but not necessarily that I should worship him.She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    oh yeah, even if he proved his existence i wouldn't worship him. the dude's an asshole. two eathquakes in one month? fuck you god!
    I concur: spx4var
    Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
    • CommentAuthorEVLWNS
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: AddlerI think if satan and jesus were having a lightsaber duel on my front lawn I would try and find some kind of logical explanation.I respect the idea of God too much to hold him responsible for such an absurd world.


    There is a logical explanation for that: I think it's called "cosplaying while drunk."

    What would it take to make me believe in God? It's a personal thing, not objective. And as I only put weight on objective phenomena, I don't think there's anything that could make me believe that there's a God, short of some kind of Apocalypse.

    And indeed, if God showed himself to truly, objectively exist, I'd flip him the bird and say "Fuck you, you petty, vicious, narcissicistic cunt!""When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
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      CommentAuthorspx4var
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: Addleroh yeah, even if he proved his existence i wouldn't worship him. the dude's an asshole. two eathquakes in one month? fuck you god!
    I concur:spx4var
    I respect the idea of God too much to hold him responsible for such an absurd world.

    My friend moved to the now epicentre of the Chilean earthquake, about 9 months ago. We all, obviously, lost contact with him for a while, but heard the other day that he's ok, thank... God?

    I'd have to agree with the others. Even with a massive world-wide PR stunt of goodness, backed up by a huge number of witnesses, I might painfully admit his existence - but I definitely wouldn't worship him.
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      CommentAuthorJeeves
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Jesus would need to appear in front of me, hand me a million dollars, and then turn into Megan Fox and give me a hand job before I would believe in God.meow
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    Would you worship him then?She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
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      CommentAuthorJeeves
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Hell yeahmeow
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    Posted By: spx4varMy friend moved to the now epicentre of the Chilean earthquake, about 9 months ago. We all, obviously, lost contact with him for a while, but heard the other day that he's ok, thank... God?


    300k die in Haiti but it was a miracle from god that one person was found trapped in some of the rubble after a week. It was god that dropped him near enough water to survive apparently. Praise the merciful loving god!
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    Posted By: JeevesJesus would need to appear in front of me, hand me a million dollars, and then turn into Megan Fox and give me a hand job before I would believe in God.If God made everything, he must live in China!


    But if you become a Muslim you get over 70 dark eyed virgin sex slaves! Why settle for 1 quick mil and megan fox.
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      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    He makes a good point.
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    Did I mention the regenerating hymens?
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      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    He makes an amazing point.
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      CommentAuthorInferno
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Posted By: JeevesJesus would need to appear in front of me, hand me a million dollars, and then turn into Megan Fox and give me a hand job before I would believe in God.If God made everything, he must live in China!


    Ui Ui Ui I doubt if DC will like this! ;)

    On topic: I doubt I would take anything as proof because the simplest answer is still a mass illusion/delusion and we KNOW those can happen. (This one case in Portugal where 70k people said they saw the sun crash into the ocean, Christianity in general) It is way more logical that we're all nuts than that a God exists. Think about it:
    1) We're all suddenly nuts or under the influence of some unknown substance: Doesn't violate a lot of what we know.
    2) God exists and is performing miracles: Violates basically everything I know about the Universe.

    But I guess I would settle for: All the world needs to believe the same religion, have (roughly) the same moral values and the same stories about God. A sighting of God must be scientifically measurable. God needs to reveal one deep secret of the Universe. (Or the question to 42, but that's up to It to decide.)The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan
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      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Baron
    there has been another earthquake in turkey last night 6.5 magnitude... and yes jeeves and PTH... i think i might belive after that
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      CommentAuthorStevo
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    an interesting letter to the editor a while back
    it goes something like
    "The crisis in haiti is not gods work. it is a natural disaster, period. The millions who rushed to help and the donations sent were the works of god."

    interesting, no?Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
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    What makes you all think that if there is a god, it is the christian god???
    I'm more inclined to believe that the mice are actually god, and the answer to the meaning of life is 42!!!!
    I am still open to the possibility that there may be a creator, one that does not require worshiping BUT created the universe as some sort of machine/device/experiment/form of entertainment, much like we've created virtual realities!!! (I do NOT believe this, but am willing to keep an open mind) HOWEVER, there is no way I would ever accept that the jewish/christian/muslim etc. beliefs are correct...Honesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that, by the process of elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy...
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    Posted By: The Easter BunnyWhat makes you all think that if there is a god, it is the christian god???

    Yes, that's what pisses me off most of the time. A friend of mine saw me reading "The God Delusion" and he mentioned this book that "supported the existence of God" (not A god, but God). I was tempted to say, "Which god?""I don't intend to achieve immortality through my work. I intend to achieve it through not dying." -Woody Allen
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    Posted By: JeevesJesus would need to appear in front of me, hand me a million dollars, and then turn into Megan Fox and give me a hand job before I would believe in God.If God made everything, he must live in China!

    And I just saw your post. DID OUR NIGHT AT OLIVE GARDEN MEAN NOTHING??"I don't intend to achieve immortality through my work. I intend to achieve it through not dying." -Woody Allen
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    Oh it's on now.
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      CommentAuthorInferno
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Posted By: demented cookies
    Posted By: JeevesJesus would need to appear in front of me, hand me a million dollars, and then turn into Megan Fox and give me a hand job before I would believe in God.If God made everything, he must live in China!

    And I just saw your post. DID OUR NIGHT AT OLIVE GARDEN MEAN NOTHING??


    DC don't you two have a list of 5 people with whom it would be OK to do stuff with?The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan
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      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Baron
    SHIT JUST GOT REAL!! lol ... cut the boy some slack
    • CommentAuthorEVLWNS
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Posted By: The Easter BunnyWhat makes you all think that if there is a god, it is the christian god???


    Whatever God it is, He's still a cunt.

    Jeeves, you in the shit now."When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
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      CommentAuthorJeeves
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Well i guess we're done, DC.meow
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    *gasp* a fourteen year old male wants a handjob from Meagan fox?? Who would have thought?She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
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    Posted By: PoemOf4Letters*gasp* a fourteen year old male wants a handjob from Meagan fox?? Who would have thought?Every time Paris Hilton chips a nail, more pain is released into this world than when a child in Africa goes a day without food.

    Yeah, I'm not that surprised. lol.
    That's okay. Megan Fox is on practically everybody's 5 people list."I don't intend to achieve immortality through my work. I intend to achieve it through not dying." -Woody Allen
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      CommentAuthorInferno
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Wait DC, you're not going to run after him? OH COME ON, I thought this was going to be funny... Or are you two cool again?The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan
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      CommentAuthorStevo
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    eugh megan fox.
    really she's pretty but SLUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT- much?Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
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      CommentAuthorInferno
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Posted By: Stevoreally she's pretty but SLUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT- much?


    Is she? Not at all actually. The media portray her as one, but according to herself, she's only slept with two men. And I have no doubt about that, because no man has come forward yet to claim differently.The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan
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      CommentAuthorStevo
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    touche' i stand corrected then.
    and im sure anyone who has would claim it so meh.Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
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    Posted By: InfernoIs she? Not at all actually. The media portray her as one, but according to herself, she's only slept with two men. And I have no doubt about that, because no man has come forward yet to claim differently.

    Just means she's not a whore. But she's certainly a slut. She uses her looks to get places, and definitely not any talent.
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      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010 edited
     
    Baron
    i still wouldnt mind it...
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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Posted By: The Easter BunnyWhat makes you all think that if there is a god, it is the christian god???
    I'm more inclined to believe that the mice are actually god, and the answer to the meaning of life is 42!!!!
    I am still open to the possibility that there may be a creator, one that does not require worshiping BUT created the universe as some sort of machine/device/experiment/form of entertainment, much like we've created virtual realities!!! (I do NOT believe this, but am willing to keep an open mind) HOWEVER, there is no way I would ever accept that the jewish/christian/muslim etc. beliefs are correct...There are 10 types of people... Those that understand binary and those that don't

    I'm assuming that if there is a god that it's the christian god. Not because it makes any more sense than other religions, no, it's just that Christianity is currently the biggest religion in the world so i'm assuming that they have the most powerful god. Theoretically.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
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      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Baron
    Posted By: Addler
    Posted By: The Easter BunnyWhat makes you all think that if there is a god, it is the christian god???
    I'm more inclined to believe that the mice are actually god, and the answer to the meaning of life is 42!!!!
    I am still open to the possibility that there may be a creator, one that does not require worshiping BUT created the universe as some sort of machine/device/experiment/form of entertainment, much like we've created virtual realities!!! (I do NOT believe this, but am willing to keep an open mind) HOWEVER, there is no way I would ever accept that the jewish/christian/muslim etc. beliefs are correct...There are 10 types of people... Those that understand binary and those that don't

    I'm assuming that if there is a god that it's the christian god. Not because it makes any more sense than other religions, no, it's just that Christianity is currently the biggest religion in the world so i'm assuming that they have the most powerful god. Theoretically.I respect the idea of God too much to hold him responsible for such an absurd world.


    jesus vs thor... thor would win
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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Yes but the Norse religion was dead. Which means that if their gods actually existed they weren't powerful enough to keep people worhsipping them. Jesus is currently number one.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
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      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Baron
    thats because the christians went to scandanavia and said "your wrong, we are right, if you dont belive what we tell you your going to hell" and the people belived them... dude we did a project together on the rise of christianity, if it wernt for augustine, then it would just be another cult
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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010 edited
     
    Well exactly. I'm going by the theory that the size of a religion equals the might of a god. therefore, the christian god was influential enough to convert the Norse, meaning that he was the greater god. THEREFORE I am assuming that if i were to see a god battling demons on my porch, that it would be the christian god.

    EDIT: I AM IN NO WAY INSINUATING THAT CHRISTIANITY IS THE CORRECT RELIGION. I FUCKING HATE THEM ALL.
    I concur: godless
    Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
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      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Baron
    well by that logic then yes, it woudl be the christian god...
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    Posted By: AddlerWell exactly. I'm going by the theory that the size of a religion equals the might of a god. therefore, the christian god was influential enough to convert the Norse, meaning that he was the greater god. THEREFORE I am assuming that if i were to see a god battling demons on my porch, that it would be the christian god.

    EDIT: I AM IN NO WAY INSINUATING THAT CHRISTIANITY IS THE CORRECT RELIGION. I FUCKING HATE THEM ALL.
    I concur:godless
    I respect the idea of God too much to hold him responsible for such an absurd world.


    Personally, I think you only think that way because you come from a Christian society... I bet that if you lived in Bangladesh and saw daemons battling a god on your porch, You would think it was Lord Shiva or Krishna or the like... the society in which you live, influences your beliefs and your views... you have just chosen to reject religion BUT if you were to be religious, you would more than likely be christianHonesty may be the best policy, but it's important to remember that, by the process of elimination, dishonesty is the second-best policy...
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      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Posted By: demented cookies
    Posted By: PoemOf4Letters*gasp* a fourteen year old male wants a handjob from Meagan fox?? Who would have thought?Every time Paris Hilton chips a nail, more pain is released into this world than when a child in Africa goes a day without food.

    Yeah, I'm not that surprised. lol.
    That's okay. Megan Fox is on practically everybody's 5 people list.


    NO. MEGAN FOX IS GROSS. WHO THE HELL FINDS HER ATTRACTIVE?!?! I DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND!! OKJJFBPDSFJNHSPDKFJKN
    • CommentAuthorEVLWNS
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Posted By: The Easter BunnyPersonally, I think you only think that way because you come from a Christian society... I bet that if you lived in Bangladesh and saw daemons battling a god on your porch, You would think it was Lord Shiva or Krishna or the like... the society in which you live, influences your beliefs and your views... you have just chosen to reject religion BUT if you were to be religious, you would more than likely be christian


    Actually, in Bangladesh it would most likely be Allah. In India it could be Shiva, Vishnu, Brahma, or any of a fucking galaxy of Gods.

    But your point stands."When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
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    Well gee, this is a good question. I haven't really thought about it that much because for one: I have already determined that it is impossible for any religious god to exist. On the other hand, this does not eliminate unknown gods, which, by definition would probably be considered aliens if anything.

    So, I really don't know. If I saw God or something, the most logical explanation I would come up with is that I would be suffering from some kind of halluination.

    If it's not a hallucination, then it's existence would have to be measurable in everyway, just like me own existence. Also, I would need others to verify this--the more plausible possible event is that it is an alien pretending to be God.

    In other words, God is a stupid cunt because he refuses to be observable.There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
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      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Posted By: TheAtheistGodSo, I really don't know. If I saw God or something, the most logical explanation I would come up with is that I would be suffering from some kind of halluination.

    Yeah, I would probably decide I was mentally ill and go seek professional help.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
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      CommentAuthorInferno
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    MATT: I would jump her if the opportunity presented itself. (Even though I hate ONS) And if you don't agree that she is hot, then boy, something is VERY wrong with you ;)The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan
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      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Posted By: Infernosomething is VERY wrong with you ;)


    I already knew that, honestly.

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