Not signed in (Sign In)

Share This Page

Bookmark and Share

Welcome, Guest

Want to take part in these discussions? Sign in if you have an account, or apply for one below

  • Tweet This


                   Tweet The Arrogant Atheist Forum
              Tweets current page.
  • Become Forum Nobility



      $1-$10 : Baron/Baroness
      $11-$20 : Count/Countess
      $21-$50 : Marquess/Marchioness
      $51-$100 : Duke/Duchess
      $101+ : Archduke/Archduchess

Vanilla 1.1.10 is a product of Lussumo. More Information: Documentation, Community Support.

This discussion is closed because it has been inactive for longer than 60 days. Why not start a new discussion?
    •  
      CommentAuthorZolarKeth
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Cookies won't harm you as much as marijuana will. If you exercise and eat right with cookies, then you'll be fine. But if you smoke marijuana and you take all your healthy, perscription drugs, the marijuana will still harm you, in the long run. Even eating fifty cookies won't hurt you that much. But if you smoke too much marijuana, you'll develop heart and lung problems. If you want to feel good without killing yourself, go out and take a run. It's not the same effect, but you'll feel better after a nice long run.I am immortal. Killing me would simply make you an idiot.
    •  
      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010 edited
     
    It is pretty hard to walk off brain damage.

    Not like I'd tell you to stop if you like it though. If you like eating cookies until your stomach ruptures then go for it, I might ask you if it was really worth it, but its up to you.

    In the end, I don't care, I simply deem the use of marajuana unnecessary for myself.
  1.  
    The cup was right next to the tubes from the oxygen tanks, and if those lit then the whole place would explode, so I slapped the cup out of the way, and in the process set my arm on fire.


    Nice XD. i almost blew up a class room once too. There were these two gas flames going and I blew one out on one side of the room, and t started filling that side with gas as the flame on the other side was still going.... I didn't even think of it. It was a good thing this guy pointed it out to me, or I'd of killed like 30 people. Not as heroic as you :(She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
    •  
      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Ah, you're not suppose to blow it out, you just cut the gas. Science class etiquette.
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Weed doesn't cause brain damage, as far as we know. It's been associated with smaller hippocampi in lifelong users, but not in moderate users. It is, however, bad for brain development, which becomes a non-issue at age 25.
    Assuming you consumed cannabis moderately in a lung-safe way, such as with a vaporizer, edibles, or tea, there's no difference between it and cookies, except that the pleasure it creates lasts for hours, not seconds."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
  2.  
    The only time we got to use fire in aany of my science classes was a while ago when we lit birthday candles. Woo.

    But I did get a bit pyro about that. . . Heh heh heh. . .Canto Ergo Sum
  3.  
    So basically if you some weed once in a while after age 25, it doesn't affect your brain permanently?She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
    •  
      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: normlWeed doesn't cause brain damage, as far as we know. It's been associated with smaller hippocampi in lifelong users, but not in moderate users. It is, however, bad for brain development, which becomes a non-issue at age 25.
    Assuming you consumed cannabis moderately in a lung-safe way, such as with a vaporizer, edibles, or tea, there's no difference between it and cookies, except that the pleasure it creates lasts for hours, not seconds."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell


    EEHHH! Problem solved!

    By brain damage I was refferring to the lack of oxygen you get while smoking, because your lungs are too busy being full of weed smoke.
  4.  
    Does that really affect you? I mean I'm sure there is some oxygen in the mix...She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
    •  
      CommentAuthorZolarKeth
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Again, lung and heart damage. Not just brain damage.I am immortal. Killing me would simply make you an idiot.
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: PoemOf4LettersSo basically if you some weed once in a while after age 25, it doesn't affect your brain permanently?Every time Paris Hilton chips a nail, more pain is released into this world than when a child in Africa goes a day without food.

    That seems to be the case, yes.

    By brain damage I was refferring to the lack of oxygen you get while smoking, because your lungs are too busy being full of weed smoke.

    Same as holding your breath, I suppose... I wouldn't worry about that."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
    •  
      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: PoemOf4LettersDoes that really affect you? I mean I'm sure there is some oxygen in the mix...Every time Paris Hilton chips a nail, more pain is released into this world than when a child in Africa goes a day without food.


    Yeah, I think of dudes smoking in a car of a basement until you can't see you hand in front of your face when I though of the oxygen thing. That's not normal right? Pretty unreasonable I suppose.
  5.  
    Posted By: ZolarKethAgain, lung and heart damage. Not just brain damage.I am immortal. Killing me would simply make you an idiot.


    How bad is that?She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: ZolarKethAgain, lung and heart damage. Not just brain damage.I am immortal. Killing me would simply make you an idiot.

    There are heart and lung-safe ways to consume marijuana. Those ways are what we're talking about."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
    •  
      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Well, even if it isn't a significant amount or chance of sustaining damage, if he doesn't want to tkae the chance then that's his choice, just like its the choice of any one else to do drugs.
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    Of course. I, for one, have made the choice to abstain from any kind of drug use, even though I am aware of its minimal health effects."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
  6.  
    Posted By: ZolarKethAgain, lung and heart damage. Not just brain damage.I am immortal. Killing me would simply make you an idiot.

    Adverse affects are honestly irrelevant. It's close to a red herring to bring them up.
    Does a person not have the right to do with his body what he wants? We make that distinction when we use alcohol or cigarettes. But not Marijuana?
    It's hypocritical.

    Posted By: ZolarKeth. If you want to feel good without killing yourself, go out and take a run.

    But what if I choose to smoke Marijuana to feel good? What would give somebody else the right to tell me no? Keep in mind that I actually don't smoke, but I'll defend their right to.
    It all comes down to personal freedom. There is no rational argument against legalized marijuana. And many of the big problems with it now can actually be solved by regulating it.
    I concur: Inferno
    •  
      CommentAuthorMATT
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2010
     
    I'm with PTH on this one.
    •  
      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Baron
    just use a water bong or a vaporizer. all THC and no tar or additives
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    water bongs don't actually filter out the tar. myth."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
  7.  
    Posted By: MATT
    Posted By: PoemOf4LettersDoes that really affect you? I mean I'm sure there is some oxygen in the mix...Every time Paris Hilton chips a nail, more pain is released into this world than when a child in Africa goes a day without food.


    Yeah, I think of dudes smoking in a car of a basement until you can't see you hand in front of your face when I though of the oxygen thing. That's not normal right? Pretty unreasonable I suppose.I've had dinner with the Devil, and I know nice from right.


    haha! THAT 70's SHOW!!!!(\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
    •  
      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010
     
    Baron
    i got a water pipe that has a tar filter in it, so thats good
    •  
      CommentAuthorF i L
    • CommentTimeMar 8th 2010 edited
     
    @ Poem
    I was stoned, glad to hear u noticed my absence =)
    ps. I don't do hardcore drugs. the people you meet on those paths are usually retarded. Well to be honest i'd do them on very rare occasion if the environment was right.


    I'd also like to mention that what i meant by those [hardcore] drugs being more dangerous [than Mj] is because they are so physically harmful & addictive while also having less of an impact on your cognitive functions. Not sure i was clear on that in the first post.
    Also, I want to stress that I am not advocating drug use of any kind. I do however disagree with the current consensus I sense amongst most Americans concerning drugs (and the education of youths). It's to black 'n white: Do drugs and you'll end up a junkie bum, don't and you'll be happy forever. It's like trying to stop STD's by preaching abstinence. People need to understand drugs, both the pros and the cons, before they can be responsible with them.
  8.  
    i'm curious what you mean by hardcore drugs. i'm probably still thinking in 90's(and holland)terms, but drugs like mdma or lsd are not addictive. that doesn't mean they can't screw up, but not addictive. the only drugs i know of that are addictive are marijuana(just think of the difference there is in effect from the first time you smoked a handfull and the last time), coke and heroine, possibly speed, depending on why you use it. depending on your experience with the drug, it varies as well. for ex. i had 2 accidental coke-experiences, both were crappy, therefore everything in me says "stay away from that shit", whereas for others it really "hits the spot", therefore they want and need more. heroine is the only drug i didn't try that was around in the 90's(i think!). i'm glad i didn't, çause i probably wouldn't be here, i'm very susceptable to becoming addicted to anything euforic.(\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
    •  
      CommentAuthorStevo
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    pie is addictive. so is cake.Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
    •  
      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    everything that's good has it's consiquences. Cookies make you fat, red meat clogs your arteries, and weed gives you cancer.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
    •  
      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Baron
    Posted By: Addlereverything that's good has it's consiquences. Cookies make you fat, red meat clogs your arteries, and weed gives you cancer.I respect the idea of God too much to hold him responsible for such an absurd world.

    ... and makes telitubies fun to watch, and hightens twinkie sales
    •  
      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Dude, I watched that garfield cartoon while rocking that shit that we got last week. it was glorious.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
  9.  
    Posted By: Stevo
    • CommentAuthorStevo
    • CommentTime8 hours ago
    concurquote
    pie is addictive. so is cake.


    meh. it's easier to kick the habit than you think.(\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
  10.  
    Not like I'm gonna do anything, but to me LSD sounds like the coolest drug. I'd love to have a dream like that :). Is it true that it actually doesn't cause brain damage?She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
    •  
      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    it does if you OD, but in the correct dosage it's fine for you. im planning to try LSD and ecstasy in college.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Candyflipping! That's held by many to be the greatest sensation humans are capable of experiencing. Just make sure you know what you have before you take it."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
    •  
      CommentAuthorAddler
    • CommentTimeMar 9th 2010
     
    Yeah, i would make sure i was getting it off of someone i trust. I know a lot of drug dealers, so it's cool.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
  11.  
    Wait, X is supposed to be the one that burns the SHIT out of your brains...She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
    • CommentAuthorEVLWNS
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    Be very fucking careful of acid. It may be arguably one of the least harmful or addictive drugs, but it certainly doesn't mean bad shit can't happen.

    My brother had a lot of friends who used drugs. Some of those used LSD (how they got their hands on it, I don't know). One of those guys was found one morning mowing... his living room carpet. Another had a terrible reaction to it, and didn't come out of the trip, which was a bad one. It's unclear to me what happened to him, but I think he went to some institution. Another had a trip so bad that he began thrashing around and bashing himself against nearby objects and buildings. Got really fucked up.

    Still, I'd try it myself if I had a decent opportunity. Just once to see what happens."When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
    •  
      CommentAuthornorml
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    Posted By: PoemOf4LettersWait, X is supposed to be the one that burns the SHIT out of your brains...Every time Paris Hilton chips a nail, more pain is released into this world than when a child in Africa goes a day without food.

    Not in moderation. If you become addicted, doing it all the time, then yeah, it can be bad, but if you space your uses out by at least a month, nothing happens."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
    •  
      CommentAuthorgodless
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    Baron
    yea on LSD or shrooms or any of that type of drug you allways want atleast one safty man...
    •  
      CommentAuthorStevo
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    nah cookies and pie dont make me fat.
    ive outeaten all of my friends, and still am the skinniest there.Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
    •  
      CommentAuthorInferno
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    Posted By: Stevonah cookies and pie dont make me fat.
    ive outeaten all of my friends, and still am the skinniest there.If Jesus had died 20 years ago, christians would be wearing, instead of crucifixes, electric chairs around their collars.


    Lucky, fast metabolism. I have a friend like that, he doesn't do any sport yet he can eat whatever he wants and he doesn't get fat. I don't. When I eat, I expand. My dad was like that friend of mine and when he was 22ish, that stopped and he's now a 90kg fatso.The Cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be. -Carl Sagan
  12.  
    Posted By: EVLWNSBe very fucking careful of acid.


    concur.
    I concur: godless
    (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
  13.  
    omg, since i moved in july i was eating only vegetarian and ecological and lost 20 kilos, than the doctor told me i was sick and people telling me i'm spending too much money on food, so i spent the last 2 or 3 weeks eatingg nothing but meat and fatty foods(okay i'm still a vegetable addict, but not as much). man, i'm still losing weight almost at the same pace. me thinking it was because of my healthy lifestyle and all, in actuality i'm just so stressed my body has no room to absorb fat, because it has so much stress to absorb. oh, i do ride my bike 2 hours a day. that does count for something, but i'm not stopping that, if i did my life would end.(\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
  14.  
    i'm just realising ther still is a bit of a pattern, by the way. about once a year for a couple of days i'll smoke a small amount of weed. i never think i'm actually ever going to do it again though. wierd. anyway, i look nothing like that stoner ggirl, and i didn't when i was a teen and started with pure joints at 8 oçlock in the morning for about the length of a year. i didn't look like anyone really. i wore alot of green and had fake army boots, that's all i remember about me. i was one out of two ggirls(the other one was my best friend) who hang out with a group of about 8 guys(could be more or less it's kind of hazy, if i really thought hard i could name them all, i think) that listened to snoop dogg and what's the band that did "insane in the brain"? there were botanical gardens down the street from our school and we would go smoke up there. and i would sit indianstyle in front of school when i should have been in class and play my guitar and sing. i did virtually anything i wanted. how the heck did i get away with all the things i did back then? where were my parents? anyway, me and 3 other friends decided to take a train and hitch-hike to spain when we were 16, in january. it was cold and i think i wore a shirt and a sweater, but winter here is like 30 fahrenheit or something. our other friend stook us to the station and they were crying and honestly thought they would never see us again. when we passed through antwerpen we found a guy who gave a whole bunch of valium, which of course we had to try. my girlfriend called her parents at antwerpen station to tell them she was okay, and they fished out of her that we were in antwerpen, so we decided to jump on another train right away, which took us to somewhere in france, where this lady asked us if we needed a place to say when we were sitting outside the station. we walked around paris at a certain point in the middle of the night(i remember that), where we found a building stall that had fences around it which we climbed. we were able to wash ourselves up and even found some sandwiches leftover by the workers that must have been there in the day. at the eiffeltower during day, we took some more of those valiums. i remember walking up some steps, playing guitar and llosing oyr one guy friend, who was one the whole day. then there is another blackout. me and my two friends are woken up by people in suits(i guess we were in a metro station) and they were telling us in french that we weren't allowed to sit/sleep there, oh and they checked our arms for needlepointing. as we were walking out of the station, there he was our guy friend! and we were grillingg him on where the hell he had gone to, and he wouldn't tell us, and we still don't know! anyway, train to northern spain, where we found a hostile, and i realised that i had a huge open blister on my heel, which my friend decided to throw disinfectant on, which killed royally(or was she the one with the blister and me the disinfectant?). we were so happy there were baths, and then we let the water run, it was brownish-reddish, i think i still washed in it, i'm not sure(maybe i don't want to be sure). there we met 2 british guys( i think they were like you take that one, i'll take this one or something like that) and our guy friend was making passes at my best friend, which made me jealous and everyone was starting to fight. so, we decided we would hitchhike to madrid. which we did after many arguments about who would hike with who and we would meet up with the 2 brits in madrid(which i don't remember doing). the first thing we learned in madrid was "tenis un cigarillo" and the second was "mi no tango hambre". that second one you can go into any store and say it and get food for free there. and if you walk down one street and say the first statement to everyone you pass, at the end of the street you will have a full pack of cigs.:) tried sleeping on a bench one night. after splitting up to hitch-hike we met up again "somehow", no idea. looking for a hostile in the middle of the night again, and my friend tripping(literally, physically tripping) a couple of times and blaming me for not catching her or helping her. ha! finging said hostile and then decideing to go out on the town where we met 3 spanish guys we immediately fell in love with, drinking then back to hostile(with 2 added to the company) what hostile lets you add people to your company without paying for them? did we even pay for ourselves? all we did was sell our cd's where did we get all that money? anyway somewhere in there my friend lost her passport and insisted on going to the consulate though there were many protests and me threateningg not to come with her, but she was scared. then they contacted all of our parents and we were shipped back to holland also "somehow" i don't recollect.there's more to that story, but i would really have to think hard to recall it. ;)(\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")
    •  
      CommentAuthorJeeves
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2010
     
    What country did you grow up in?meow
  15.  
    holland. i forgot one last thing i remembered, was that i had ended leaving my guitar at the last hostile, a pilot friend of my mom's picked it up from there one time flying. so i got it back. oh, THERE"s how we had money. guitarillo, baby.(\__/) (='.'=) (")_(")

This discussion is closed because it has been inactive for longer than 60 days. Why not start a new discussion?