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- CommentAuthorTheAtheistGod
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
This is the opposite of that stupid thread that keeps popping up every now and then. I felt like putting mine's up!

ATHEISM RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
WOOWOO WOO WOO WOO

GOD IZ LAME, LEZ GO HAVE BUTTSECKS AND BLASPHEME IN FRONT OF THE VATICAN
- CommentAuthorAddler
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
there's enough buttsex going on at the vatican as it is. catholics are fucked up.Jesus has risen, It's no surprise. Even he would martyr his momma to ride to hell between those thighs.
- CommentAuthorSourdough
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
My invisible friends are much nicer than that douche, god.It's not about fun. It's about the truth. -House
- CommentAuthorEVLWNS
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
Religion is dead forever!

THERE ARE ALL DAWKINSISTS NOW!!!
I concur: superchang847
"When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
- CommentAuthorSourdough
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
Posted By: EVLWNSReligion is dead forever!

THERE ARE ALL DAWKINSISTS NOW!!!

lol heheheIt's not about fun. It's about the truth. -House
- CommentAuthornorml
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
I prefer the unapologetic cynicism of Hitchens, actually. Dawkins is mickey mouse."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
- CommentAuthorStevo
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
FOR PONYYYYYYYPhilosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
- CommentAuthorSourdough
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
Posted By: StevoFOR PONYYYYYYYIf Jesus had died 20 years ago, christians would be wearing, instead of crucifixes, electric chairs around their collars.

<3It's not about fun. It's about the truth. -House
- CommentAuthorSourdough
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
You know what this thread needs to be even more awesome?

Robocop on a unicorn.
I concur: superchang847
It's not about fun. It's about the truth. -House
- CommentAuthorStevo
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
oh lol. FOR ROBOCOP ON A UNICORN!!!Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
- CommentAuthorgodless
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
Baron
YAYYYY ATHEISM FTW!!! FUCK YOU DRPAINKILLER!
- CommentAuthorvenomfangx
- CommentTimeFeb 9th 2010
Archduke
Posted By: godlessFUCK YOU DRPAINKILLER!

Very unseeming talk for a Baron godless. This is so un English. How ignoble :) Now you need a nice picture to go with your enhanced status. You could be as cute as Stevo or Matt or even the most handsome me. Now we want our Matty to pay to become a duke or something, but indeed like you he is most worthy of Baron Hood. I hear the FSM has exulted you both on the highest noodle.
yours
VFXGénéralement, les gens qui savant peu parlent becoup, et les gens qui savant beaucoup parlent peu.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 9th 2010
Posted By: venomfangx
Posted By: godlessFUCK YOU DRPAINKILLER!

Very unseeming talk for a Baron godless. This is so un English. How ignoble :) Now you need a nice picture to go with your enhanced status. You could be as cute as Stevo or Matt or even the most handsome me. Now we want our Matty to pay to become a duke or something, but indeed like you he is most worthy of Baron Hood. I hear the FSM has exulted you both on the highest noodle.
yours
VFXThe truth is out there.

I love reading your posts. I feel all giggly. Maybe its jst because I'm so tired.
- CommentAuthorAkuta
- CommentTimeFeb 10th 2010
You know... It's been a nice little vacation from the site. I haven't participated much for a few days, but this thread needs a little class...

I concur: PoemOf4Letters
Death is life's way of telling you that you've been fired.
- CommentAuthorAkuta
- CommentTimeFeb 10th 2010
Posted By: MATTI love reading your posts. I feel all giggly. Maybe its jst because I'm so tired.

I think it may be the man-crush.Death is life's way of telling you that you've been fired.
- CommentAuthorgodless
- CommentTimeFeb 10th 2010
Baron
indubitably sir
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 10th 2010
Posted By: Akuta
Posted By: MATTI love reading your posts. I feel all giggly. Maybe its jst because I'm so tired.

I think it may be the man-crush.Death is life's way of telling you that you've been fired.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE YOUR MOM

Posted By: godlessindubitably sir

INDUBITABLY YOU MOM
- CommentAuthorgodless
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
Baron
D:
- CommentAuthorAkuta
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
Posted By: MATTI THINK IT MIGHT BE YOUR MOM

No, I'm pretty sure it's the man-crush. After that response, I'm VERY sure it's the man-crush... It's ok, don't be afraid of your feelings, Matt.Death is life's way of telling you that you've been fired.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
Goddamnit, Sourdough already made the partridge family song joke.
- CommentAuthorTheAtheistGod
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
Let Atheism and Butt sex RULE FOREVER!!!
I concur: DemonataFangirl
There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
- CommentAuthorDemonataFangirl
- CommentTimeFeb 13th 2010
Everyone loves an epic win. XD
I concur: MATT
There cannot be a God because if there were one, I could not believe that I was not He.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 13th 2010
Chris Hanson + Pedobear = 248765/0
- CommentAuthorTheAtheistGod
- CommentTimeFeb 13th 2010
Posted By: MATTChris Hanson + Pedobear = 248765/0The great schism among Atheists: To believe God's not there, or to not believe God's there. -------------------------------------------Noblesse Oblige.

undefined.There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 14th 2010 edited
NO.
x/0= UNIVERSE EXPLODE
- CommentAuthorStevo
- CommentTimeFeb 14th 2010
beep.
I concur: MATT
Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned.
- CommentAuthorDemonataFangirl
- CommentTimeFeb 14th 2010
BE CAREFUL!There cannot be a God because if there were one, I could not believe that I was not He.
- CommentAuthorgodless
- CommentTimeFeb 14th 2010
Baron
i lol'ed
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 14th 2010 edited
Don't worry, you won't create any singularities unless you run n/0 in a calculator without an Error message safety catch.

That hole in the water is freaky though. Who the hell goes swimming with an unsafe calculator?
I concur: PoemOf4Letters
- CommentAuthorTheAtheistGod
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
hahaha, I liked what DFG put up. hahaha, too funny. lol.

a/0 where "a" is not 0, is undefined.

0/a is zero.

0/0 is not undefined; it is ambigious.There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
QUIT IT
YOU SHOULD KNOW "Undefined" IS ONLY USED TO HIDE THE AWESOME POWER OF DIVIDING BY ZERO.

You tool.
- CommentAuthorEVLWNS
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Could someone please tell me why dividing by 0 does not result in infinity?"When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Posted By: EVLWNSCould someone please tell me why dividing by 0 does not result in infinity?

Infiniti is undefined isn't it?
- CommentAuthorgodless
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Baron
because if you divide by 0 then there are no groups to be divided by. so there is really no problem... MINDFUCK
- CommentAuthorEVLWNS
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Posted By: MATTInfiniti is undefined isn't it?I've had dinner with the Devil, and I know nice from right.

Well, yes in a way, but "undefined" is too vague. But what you're saying is that dividing by zero results in infinity, yes?"When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Probably, dividing by zero isn't exactly my speciality.
Infinit sort of makes sense but it seems almost metaphysical.
- CommentAuthorArethusa Bransome
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
No. Because infinite zeroes is still zero. So dividing by zero doesn't get infinity.Canto Ergo Sum
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Posted By: Arethusa BransomeNo. Because infinite zeroes is still zero. So dividing by zero doesn't get infinity.GENERATION 30: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

No that would be multiplying zero by something, not the same thing as dividing something by zero.
2 divided into zero groups.
What's one zeroth of two?
- CommentAuthorEVLWNS
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Posted By: Arethusa BransomeNo. Because infinite zeroes is still zero. So dividing by zero doesn't get infinity.GENERATION 30: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

Ah, there I think you are wrong.

Here is my justification for dividing by zero bresulting in infinity:

Imagine a line. It can be of any length. This line is a number line. Let's just say it is 1 length. A solid, continuous line that represents the numerical value of 1. Now imagine zero in this way. If you think correctly, what you should imagine is a point - something that does not extend for any distance in any direction. Since this point has no length and occupies no distance whatsoever, you can fit an unlimited number of these points along the number line, no matter how long the number line is. In this way, if you divide a number up into zero-dimensional points (ie. divide it by zero), you will get an infinite number of them.

Hence, dividing by zero gets you infinity.

Q.E.D."When I am, Death is not; and when Death is, I am not. Then why fear what I cannot be?"
- CommentAuthornorml
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Did you not take algebra 2? It's undefined because zero wouldn't even be a point. It would be nothing. There's an infinite amount of points in between 1 and 2, but there's an undefined amount of nothings in between them."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell
- CommentAuthordemented cookies
- CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
Ugh, I don't even want to think about dividing by zero. Dividing by any other number is impossible enough for me."I don't intend to achieve immortality through my work. I intend to achieve it through not dying." -Woody Allen
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 17th 2010
.. So by undefined amount of nothing you mean infinite?
Agh

Posted By: normlDid you not take algebra 2? It's undefined because zero wouldn't even be a point. It would be nothing. There's an infinite amount of points in between 1 and 2, but there's an undefined amount of nothings in between them."The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell

It looks to me like inifiti and undefined are the same thing. You can indeed fit an infinite amount of nothing into any amount of something. Infact, the only thing that can logically be infinite is literally nothing.

So yeah, I conclude with my huge lack of expertise that infiniti and undefined are the same.
- CommentAuthorTheAtheistGod
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2010
Posted By: EVLWNS
Posted By: Arethusa BransomeNo. Because infinite zeroes is still zero. So dividing by zero doesn't get infinity.GENERATION 30: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

Ah, there I think you are wrong.

Here is my justification for dividing by zero bresulting in infinity:

Imagine a line. It can be of any length. This line is a number line. Let's just say it is 1 length. A solid, continuous line that represents the numerical value of 1. Now imagine zero in this way. If you think correctly, what you should imagine is a point - something that does not extend for any distance in any direction. Since this point has no length and occupies no distance whatsoever, you can fit an unlimited number of these points along the number line, no matter how long the number line is. In this way, if you divide a number up into zero-dimensional points (ie. divide it by zero), you will get an infinite number of them.

Hence, dividing by zero gets you infinity.

Q.E.D.

I see why you say this but division is only short hand notation for multiplication. And it depends on what you mean by division, too.

For example

10/2 = 5 means that 2*5 = 10

and

18/3 = 6 means that 6*3 = 18

but

20/0 = infinity means that 0*infinity = 20 ....(what!?)

The problem here is that infinity cannot be treated as a number (which was what you did). So, not only your proof is invalid, you proof lacks the definition of infinity.

However, what is lurking here is the concept of a limit; so new notation is required to make some since of this.

We know that we can't simply divide by zero (where the number being divided is nonzero), as I provided a counter example to your claim.

However, you have the idea almost right.

Suppose I have a nonzero number, call it "a." We can think "a" as a pie that we like to eat or an apple, etc, etc.

Suppose we divide this "a" by a certian number, say "n"

So, we have a percentage or portion, "a/n"

Clearly, as n gets large, a/n gets really small, right? if we divide the pie up into more pieces, we get smaller pieces. However, if we let "n" become really small,
a/n gets large. Let's assume that "n" is positive for simplicity.

so,

The limit as n approaches zero from the right is positive infinity. There's a difference between the actual value of "a/n" and what it approaches.
For if we assume that a/0 = infinity, it leads to contradictions (if not treated carefully).

so, be careful, there.There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2010 edited
what kind of contradictions? I'm confused.

Maybe 0*infiniti is literally equal to every number?
goihu
- CommentAuthorTheAtheistGod
- CommentTimeFeb 21st 2010
Posted By: MATTwhat kind of contradictions? I'm confused.

Maybe 0*infiniti is literally equal to every number?
goihuI've had dinner with the Devil, and I know nice from right.

Matt, if what you say is true, then

0*infinity = 1
and
0*infinity = 2
and
0*infinity = sqrt(3)
and
etc, etc,...

which means that 1 = 2 = sqrt(3); a contradiction.

done.There is no morality when one's motives are driven by reward and punishment.
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2010
Why does that have to be true though?

Infiniti seems like a pretty special case to me.

But them again, I have no idea what \I'm talking about.
- CommentAuthorPoemOf4Letters
- CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2010
My dad says he likes math because as long as you follow the rules everything works and it's beautiful. He's wrong though, sometimes it doesn't work.She shows no emotion at all, stares into space like a dead China doll. - Elliott Smith
- CommentAuthorMATT
- CommentTimeFeb 24th 2010
Well, if you follow rules and work with defined concepts it'll work. But I wouldn't say its beautiful.
- CommentAuthornorml
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2010
It's more tedious than beautiful, IMO. It all makes sense, but it's incredibly boring.
I concur: godless
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts." ~ Bertrand Russell

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